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How to Convert a Refrigerator for Curing Meat or Aging Cheese

WARNING: Working with electricity is dangerous. This article will teach you several ways to convert a refrigerator into a chamber for curing meat or for aging cheese.  (The same principles can be used to convert a refrigerator into a lagering chamber for making homebrew lager beer, or converting a chest freezer into a kegerator.)  If you choose the route that requires wiring, I cannot be held responsible for any damage to life or property should your wiring fail.  If in doubt, consult an electrician, and always obey local, state, and federal electrical codes when modifying the electrical connection for appliances.

Folks with a basement or cellar anywhere in the US (or most temperate climates) generally have the proper temperature and humidity range to cure meat simply by hanging properly salted meat in that basement or cellar.  (Though insects, mice, and wild molds can be a problem.)  The finest meats in the world are cured in centuries-old basements in Europe.  But for those of us without basements or cellars, curing our own meat requires a curing chamber that provides the ideal temperature and humidity range.

It’s fairly simple to convert an old refrigerator into such a chamber.  I got an old fridge on Craigslist for $50, but you can often find them in the free section if you’ll be patient and quick to respond once they are listed.  (If you transport a fridge on its side, rather than upright, you need to leave the fridge sitting upright, unplugged, for a couple of days, to let the coolant settle properly.)

The first object is to rig a rack system near the top of the fridge chamber, on which the meat will hang.  If you ever plan on curing whole hams, this rack may need to support fairly heavy weights (25-30 pounds per ham for a large one.)  If you’re just curing sausages, it may not need to be as strong.  If the fridge has wire racks, you may be able to just move the racks to the top of the fridge and hang the meat directly from the racks.  My fridge came with glass shelves, so I removed all the shelves.  I made my rack system out of aluminum from Home Depot.  I bought square tubes which anchor the racks on each end, and used an angle grinder to cut slots in the square tube so I can customize the distance between the racks:

I used a fast-setting epoxy to glue the square tubes to the walls of the fridge.  (Make sure they are level and even with each other!)  Then I just slid the bars into the slots, and placed some S-hooks over the bars to hang the meat.  This type of rack is sturdy enough to cure full-sized hams.

Wood may be easier to work with, but the conditions inside the curing chamber will be damp (around 65% humidity) which provides a perfect place for mold to grow, so I encourage you to avoid wood, if possible.  Get creative!

Once you have your fridge and rack system set up, you need 5 electronic components to convert the fridge into a curing chamber:

  • An external temperature controller/thermostat
  • An external humidity controller
  • A cool-mist/ultrasonic humidifier
  • A thermo-hygrometer (weather station)
  • A fan

The first two items are available on the internet in a wide range of prices, depending on how convenient you want the conversion to be.  The simplest units are plug-and-play.  You plug the controllers into any outlet.  You plug the fridge into the temperature controller and you plug the humidifier into the humidity controller.  You set the proper temperature and humidity ranges, you place the sensor probes into the fridge chamber, and you’re good to go.  Unfortunately, these units are the most expensive.  The plug-and-play temperature controllers range between $50 and $80, like this one on Amazon.  The humidity controllers range between  $50 and $100, like this one or this one.  If you’re not accustomed to electrical work, I strongly encourage you to spend the extra money and get one of these.

For those of you who are handy, there are some cheaper units now available that were designed for controlling temp and humidity in computer server racks, but they are bare-bones units and you’ll have to provide power (via a cord, or wiring them to an outlet), and make your own connections to the fridge and humidifier (either by direct wiring or hard-wire, or by wiring the controllers to outlets.)  The STC-1000 unit for controlling temperature costs about $25.  (Be cautious if you find it cheaper.  Cheaper units may ship from China and take weeks, and be certain you order the proper voltage for your country…in the US this is 110 volts.)  The WH8040 unit for controlling humidity costs around $35.  (Similar warnings for this unit, too.)

I’m going to explain how to hard-wire your fridge and humidifier directly to these units, because there are other articles out there on how to wire outlets to the units, and then plug in your fridge and humidifier.  That’s extra cost, to me, and requires that I construct a housing to hold the units and the outlets.  And I’m looking for the quickest route to efficiency.  Please note that local electrical codes may not like you to have exposed wiring connections.

Let’s start with the STC-1000 to control the temperature of the fridge:

The unit comes with wiring instructions translated from Chinese, and they’re completely useless.  So I’ve made a wiring diagram:

Hard wire the STC-1000 to a fridge

You will need to buy or re-purpose a power cord to power the unit.  The cord needs to be able to handle enough current to power the fridge, so don’t use a lamp cord!  If you use a grounded power cord, you can connect the fridge’s green grounding wire to the green wire of the power cord.  (If you use a 2-wire power cord, you will need to connect the green wire inside the fridge’s cord to the grounding screw on an outlet, or follow the alternate grounding procedure later in this post.)  Using a grounded power cord is preferable.  You will need to cut the plug off the refrigerator’s power cord and strip off the insulation from the hot, neutral, and ground wires.

Some basic electrical knowledge here for those of you who are unfamiliar.  A typical power cord contains a hot wire that carries the current to the device…a neutral wire that returns the current to the outlet, thus completing the circuit…and a ground wire that carries away dangerous electricity if there is a wiring failure inside the device, so that you don’t get shocked when you touch it.

The hot wire is always black.  The neutral wire is usually white…but if there’s no white wire, the neutral wire will be indicated by writing, markings, or ribbing along the cord’s insulation, so look or feel closely to determine which wire is the neutral wire.  The ground wire is either bare copper or green.

So the hot wire from your power cord needs to be spliced to two other short bits of black wire (called “pigtails”) that run to slots 1 and 7 on the STC-1000 unit.  Tape these wires together with electrical tape, and connect them securely with a properly-sized wire nut.  The neutral wire from your power cord needs to be spliced to a pigtail that runs to slot 2, and to the neutral wire on the fridge’s power cord.  The hot wire on the fridge power cord needs to run to slot 8 on the unit.  (The neutral wire on the fridge power cord has already been connected to the neutral wire from the main power cord, along with a pigtail to slot 2.)

When you get done, it’ll look kinda like this:

(You shouldn’t need a heater unit unless your curing fridge sits outside in a very cold climate, but if you do, a heating pad will generally work nicely.  To add a heater to the system, run a pigtail from the black power cord bundle to slot 5.  Run the heater’s hot wire to slot 6.  Connect the heater’s neutral wire to the neutral bundle.) 

The fridge MUST be grounded, or you risk electrocuting yourself when you touch the fridge if the wiring inside the fridge fails.  The grounding wire from the fridge can connect directly to the green or bare copper wire inside the power cord, if it’s a 3-prong cord.  If you’ve used a 2 prong power cord, like I did, you need to connect the fridge’s ground wire to the grounding screw inside a nearby electrical outlet, or you can take a regular 3-prong plug, remove the hot and neutral prongs, leaving just the grounding prong, and connect the ground wire to that prong:

Here I've removed the first prong from the plug.
After removing the other prong, I attach the ground wire from the fridge to the grounding screw.
I replaced the back of the plug and now I have a ground wire that plugs into an outlet, but draws no power, it simply grounds the fridge.

Now you need to plug in the power cord to an outlet.  (I bought a special extension cord that has 4 outlets on the end that will sit next to the fridge.  4 items will need to be plugged into the outlet.  You can also use a regular extension cord and a power strip.)  The STC-1000 unit will power up, and now you need to set it.

The following paragraph details instructions for setting the STC-1000, you can skip this unless you are actively setting the device right now:  Press and hold the S key for 3 seconds to enter the setting mode.  The first item that displays is F1, which is the temperature setting.  The unit is in Celsius, so you’ll have to do a quick conversion.  I keep my curing chamber in the low 60s Fahrenheit, so 18C is the corresponding setting.  To set the temp, press and hold the S key while pressing the up or down arrow until you reach the temperature that you want your curing chamber to remain.  Then press the power button once quickly to save the setting.  (The setting will remain even if your power goes out…it only resets to the default setting if you manually reset the device.)  The other settings don’t need to be modified unless you have problems later.  (F2 is the “Difference value” which tells the fridge when to turn on after the temperature rises a specific number of degrees above your setting.  The default setting is half a degree Celsius, which is fine as it is.  F3 is the “Compressor delay time” which gives the fridge’s compressor a result, because you don’t want it cycling on and off every 30 seconds.  The default setting is 3 minutes, which is fine.  F4 is the “Temperature calibration value” which is used if you discover your device isn’t accurate and you need to adjust it.  To switch between these values in the setting mode, press the S key multiple times until you arrive at the feature you need to change.  If, at any time during the setting process, you don’t press a key for 10 seconds, the device forgets what you’ve done and returns to its operation mode.  Don’t forget to press the power button once quickly to save your settings.)

Make sure to attach the temperature probe to slots 3 and 4 on the unit.  Then run the sensor probe into your fridge and make sure it’s not touching the walls, the racks, or the meat.  Now the STC-1000 unit will keep your fridge in the low 60s…the perfect temp for curing meat.

Now we need to address humidity.  Normal refrigerators run very dry, so you’ll need to add moisture to the chamber to keep it in the low 60% range.  We do this with a cool-mist humidifier, also called an ultrasonic humidifier.  (DON’T use a conventional vaporizer, which uses warm heat to evaporate the water.  This will raise the temp inside the chamber each time the unit comes on.)  Get yourself the largest-capacity humidifier you can afford, so you don’t have to refill the unit every few days.  The unit I’m using holds about 1 gallon of water.  It cost me $30 on Amazon and was fairly well reviewed.  (There is also a pig-shaped humidifier on Amazon, which is supremely appropriate, but the reviews aren’t as good.)

Place the humidifier in the bottom of the fridge and run the wire out the side of the door.  Cut the plug off the end of your humidifier and strip the insulation off the cords.  (Humidifiers don’t usually have a ground wire, just a hot and a neutral.)

Now we get out our WH8040 humidity controller:

We wire the humidifier to the unit using the following diagram:


The hot wire from the power cord connects to two pigtails, which are connected to slots 2 and 3 on the WH8040.  The neutral wire from the power cord connects to a pigtail to slot 4, as well as the neutral wire from the humidifier’s power cord.  And the hot wire from the humidifier connects to slot 1.  The WH8040 has 2 probes that it uses to calculate humidity…a temp probe which connects to slots 8 and 9, and a vapor probe that connects to slots 5, 6, and 7.  Run the probes into the refrigerator’s chamber, and like the temp probe, they should hang freely in the area where the meat does.

When you get done wiring it, the unit will look sorta like this:

The following paragraph details instructions for setting the WH8040, you can skip this unless you are actively setting the device right now:  Press and hold the SET key for 3 seconds to enter the setting mode.  The first value is HC, which tells the unit whether to dehumidify, or humidify.  Press the SET key again, and use the up or down arrows to set this value to H (humidify).  Then press the SET key again to save the value and return to SET mode.  Press the UP key to move to the next value, D, which is “Hysteresis.”  Leave this at its default setting.  Press the UP key again to move to the next value, LS, which is the lowest humidity range you want to keep.  Press the SET button and adjust this setting to 55%, or whatever the lowest humidity is acceptable for you.  Then press the SET button again.  Use the UP arrow to move to the next value, HS, which is the maximum humidity.  Click SET and use the arrows to set this limit to 65%. The remaining settings can be left at their defaults unless you need to modify them later.  CA is humidity calibration…if your unit isn’t measuring the humidity correctly, you can override the settings by plus or minus 5%.  PT is the delay time between turning your humidifier on and off, and the default is set at 1 minute.  Press the RST key to leave the set mode.

Now you can mount your WH8040 to the side of your fridge with double sided tape or velcro.

Again, if all that wiring sounds too complex for you, you can simply buy a plug-and-play temp controller and humidity controller, you’re just gonna spend an extra $75-$100.  Do that, and your system will be set up in 15 minutes.

Now it’s time to place the fan in the bottom of the fridge next to your humidifier.  I got a small metal desk fan on Amazon for $13 that was well reviewed.  The air inside the curing chamber needs to circulate constantly to help dry the meat, so just run this cord out the back of the door and plug it into your power supply.

The final step is to install your thermo-hygrometer, which keeps track of the temp and humidity inside the chamber, so you know if your controllers are working properly.  I got mine on Amazon for $18.  It has a wireless remote unit that I velcroed to the inside of the fridge.  It is battery powered, and sends the information to the main unit, which I velcroed to the fridge door.

Now the curing chamber is complete!  Give it a few hours to operate before you start tweaking.  Remember that your fridge will probably have its own settings for temperature, which can affect the whole system.  (I have mine set for the warmest temp.)  Here’s what the final setup looks like on the inside (completely with wild boar already curing):

Note the sensors all hanging on the center and upper left side of the pic.

The freezer above is now empty space.  And in MY converted fridge, the freezer maintains a temp of about 50 degrees, when the main chamber is 65.  50F is the PERFECT temp for aging cheese!  So I can age cheese AND cure meat in the same unit.  Don’t ever try to age cheese in the SAME chamber as curing your meat.  The bacteria that you inoculate cheese with (especially bleu cheeses) isn’t what you want growing on your meat.  So they need to be separated.

All-in-all, this setup cost me about $200.  Not cheap by any means.  But if you’re serious about making your own charcuterie and salumi at home, this is money well invested.  (A single Iberico ham or Prosciutto di Parma can set you back up to $1000!)  Some people have luck using a small college dormitory fridge, moved to the warmest setting, with a dish of water in the bottom to boost humidity.  This is way cheaper and easier to set up…but you lose control over your environment, which will yield unexpected results.  And if you’re going to great lengths to source quality meat, you don’t want it rotting away in your garage.

Now you’re ready to make prosciutto, coppa, spalla, guanciale, salami, and age your own hams.  Of course, that’s an entirely separate blog entry.  Check this out for starters!

A video will be posted soon, which may help those who are more auditory and visual.

Please feel free to comment below, especially if you already cure your own meat at home, if you have a different setup, or if you make this setup and try it.  And subscribe to my blog in the upper right corner of this page below the header image so you don’t miss out on other great posts!

168 responses to “How to Convert a Refrigerator for Curing Meat or Aging Cheese”

  1. Gregory Wright Avatar
    Gregory Wright

    ENVY! Super cool! Maybe someday…are you certain you can use the freezer for cheese while curing meat? I was under the impression that air circulates from one chamber to the next chamber, meaning all the spores in the air would go to both chambers. No?

    1. Ben Avatar

      It IS possible that air will make its way between the chambers. (A HEPA filter should solve that problem, though.) I’ll let you know how it turns out.

  2. Simon Matthee Avatar

    That was a great guide! Especially the wiring diagrams, I have used that temp controller on a few projects and I never remember to write it down!!

    I am currently planning a curing chamber, and I also brew small batches of beer. I noted your cheese warning, but I was wondering if you’ve ever experimented with curing meat and brewing beer in the same chamber?

    Cheers,
    Simon

    1. Ben Avatar

      Simon, I haven’t tried that before. If you’re talking about fermenting lager, the airlock should prevent the meat bacteria from inoculating the wort, but you WILL get beer yeast all over the outside of your meat. Which may have fabulous or catastrophic results. It will be interesting to see!

      1. Simon Matthee Avatar

        Thanks mate, I will let you know how it goes!

      2. nick Avatar
        nick

        do you suppose one could run a small tube from the airlock and vent it outside the chamber to prevent cross contamination. i have a fridge i plan on converting for meat and cider. thanks for the write up ben, your design with the temp and humididty controllers you used make for a much cleaner looking setup than anything else i researched. I dont like building junk and the plug in controllers with all their wires running everywhere looks hap hazard. I will be using the controllers you found and fabricate an enclosure i can mount on the outside of the fridge. thanks again. nick

        1. Ben Avatar

          Hey, Nick! If there IS an airlock inside the fridge, you can DEFINITELY vent to the outside to prevent cross contamination. I just don’t know enough about the inner workings of the fridge to know if there’s an airlock in the ventilation system between the fridge and the freezer.

          1. nick Avatar
            nick

            Hi! in reference to fermenting cider/beer at the same time as meat in the chamber. I was thinking about a tube from the airlock on the lid of the fermenting bucket vented to outside the chamber. so the yeast wouldnt burp its co2 on your meat. on another note I’ve gathered up most of the parts for my chamber and will send you some pics when get it done. thanks again. nick

  3. Peter Schott Avatar

    I found this post when searching for curing chamber designs…great post! Then I realized it’s Ben from masterchef…even better! My wife and I love the show and enjoyed watching you on it. Anyways, to my question – how have you liked this design, and are three any changes you would make? I’m about to do this same project.

    1. Ben Avatar

      Peter, the 3 changes I would make would depend on whether I was relying on this to be a curing chamber for meat, and using the freezer to age cheese. If the cheese freezer wasn’t a factor, I wouldn’t change a single thing. If the cheese freezer WAS a factor, I’d probably be digging around in the thermostat of the freezer to replace or remove it, because sometimes the temp in the freezer DOES drop below freezing and my cheese ends up frozen, which interrupts the ageing process. If I wasn’t skilled with electrical stuff, I’d buy the more expensive, plug and play sorta thermostat and humidity controller, so that I didn’t have to do any fancy wiring or programming like I described in the blog. But since that stuff doesn’t bother me, saving the $100 or so was worth it to me.

  4. Punk Domestics (@punkdomestics) Avatar

    I’m the founder/moderator for Punk Domestics (www.punkdomestics.com), a community site for those of use obsessed with, er, interested in DIY food, including charcuterie and salumi. It’s sort of like Tastespotting, but specific to the niche. I’d love for you to submit this to the site. Good stuff!

    1. Ben Avatar

      Wicked, Sean! Just tried signing up but computer locked up when completing registration. Will try again this afternoon! Awesome site.

  5. Kerry Avatar
    Kerry

    Ben,

    Is the fan running constantly or does it turn on when either the fridge or humidifier comes on? Also, what setting would you be using on the fan? Thank you so much for posting!!

    1. Ben Avatar

      Kerry, the runs constantly to circulate the air. I use the low setting.

  6. Sergio Avatar
    Sergio

    Pretty cool setup! Im trying to age some meat myself and have a small fridge for it. I installed a small 110v fan inside, the type used in computers. My concern is if its safe, with all the moisture, do you think it migth short-out? Thanks and great job!

    1. Ben Avatar

      Sergio, if you’re maintaining 6oish% humidity, I don’t think your fan will short out any time soon. But if you have no humidity control, you might be in for trouble, and not only shorts! Keep a cheap hygrometer in there to keep watch on your humidity. Anything above about 65% and you’re welcoming unwanted molds.

    2. David Avatar
      David

      Ben, won’t the fan’s electrical cord create a gap in the rubber gasket when you close the door, allowing cold air to escape? I heard of people attaching a computer fan to the wire from the interior light, to avoid having the cord run outside the fridge. I think maybe this is what Sergio did? Sergion can you explain how you are powering your computer fan? Any recommendation on what computer fan to use?

      1. Ben Avatar

        David, there is a very small gap. Because the temp in the fridge is fairly close to the ambient outside temp most of the time, it’s not a vast energy loss. I have the whole setup attached to a killawat which measures energy consumption…and it’s very, very low. Less than $15 a year based on energy costs in my area. Please note that the temperature and humidity probes for the controllers must ALSO go from the outside to the inside. So you’re going to have cords going in there, regardless. If you wanna get brave you might try drilling through the side of the fridge, but you may puncture a coolant line.

  7. Aaron Hernandez Avatar
    Aaron Hernandez

    An FYI to those,like me, who chose the plug n play method: the humidity controllers that Ben has suggested are not the right type. In Ben’s instructions for installing his own hard wired humidity controller, he mentions programming his controller to a max/min humidity range. The suggested controllers for one, don’t have a probe that can be placed inside the fridge, and two, can’t be programmed to humidify a set range, ie from 60-70%. In fact, in my searching, the only humidity controllers that have a “hysteresis” function, are non-plug n play. I’ve spent weeks waiting for my controller to come in, and now I have to send it back. Be warned.

    1. Ben Avatar

      Aaron, thanks for your input, and I’m sorry if I recommended something that didn’t work for you. A friend of mine in Wyoming told me that he used that humidity controller to build his curing chamber, which is why I recommended it.

      1. Aaron Hernandez Avatar
        Aaron Hernandez

        Dear Ben,
        A follow up to my somewhat negative comment: after months of trial and error, sadness, anxiety and IMPATIENCE (lol) I have finally produced my first charcuterie product: hot copa!! It looks not like I was expecting, but as my first attempt, I’m absolutely thrilled!! It’s delicious! De-lic-ious!!! Thank you for making your DIY guide/article available to the masses! This will be a worthwhile addiction!! Thanks again!!

        1. Aaron Hernandez Avatar
          Aaron Hernandez

          P.s.- a little advice to those, like me, who live less than a mile from the ocean:: I use a humidifier and de-humidifier in my chamber. I was having an extremely difficult time controlling humidity being that it is always 70-100% humidity here in Northern California. And on top of that we’ve been having an extremely dry winter mixed with rodents of rain, which threw evertything out if whack including my chamber. Hence, I needed both the humidifier and dehumidifier. Good luck!!

          1. Barry Wayne Avatar
            Barry Wayne

            Aaron–what humidity controller are you using to control both humidifier and dehumidifier?

            Thanks

            Doc

        2. Ben Avatar

          So glad you’re enjoying your hot copa! That’s one of my favorite cured meats. Mmmmmm…

          1. Aaron Hernandez Avatar
            Aaron Hernandez

            Doc– (I really hope you get this as I’m unsure wether or not I’m ‘replying’ in the right place….?)

            I searched many sites for a control box that would be able control both my humidifier and dehumidifier, but alas I came up empty handed (though I can’t say for sure that it doesn’t exist). So what I’m using are two Dayton brand controllers; one for the humidifier and one for the dehumidifier. Needless to say, my dry box is housing more electrical components than actual meat products. Doh! Hope that helps!

  8. T Counley Avatar
    T Counley

    Hi
    I live in the UK where most things American cost the earth, if not in the purchase price in the postage costs. Despite this I am definitely going to try this. I have a great interest in DIY food preservation and making my own home-cured ham etc would be quite an achievement; so thanks for the post.

    T Counley

  9. Erik Avatar
    Erik

    Hey Ben,

    I used your wiring diagram to try and setup my WH8040 and for some reason the unit is giving me an “EEE” error on the LCD screen. The only difference between my setup and yours is that I have 1 and 2 wires hooked up to a socket that I am going to plug into my humidifier rather than running it in directly. I have some photos of my setup but couldn’t figure out how to post them here in case a visual would help.

    Thanks for your help
    Erik

    1. Ben Avatar

      Erik, I’m not sure why you’re getting the EEE. Is it always displaying that, or only when the humidifier is plugged into the socket? If it displays it constantly, which is my guess, it has something to do with the resistance of the socket and the fact that the WH8040 is trying to turn on the humidifier, but the circuit is broken at the outlet. I would direct-wire that humidifier, if I were you, and see if it works.

    2. nick lane Avatar
      nick lane

      I’m getting the same error “eee” did anyone ever get this figured out. Was working fine before it sat idle for a year. Thanks
      Nick
      [email protected]

  10. Tyler Avatar
    Tyler

    Hi Ben, just wanted to say your post really got me going on making my own curing chamber. I just wrapped up and my friends asked me to chronicle the build so I’m going to be posting daily for a couple days. Anyways I’m referencing and linking your blog at several steps along the way because of how much it helped. Thanks for the great work and keep it up.

    http://sometimesigetboredandbuild.blogspot.com/

    1. Ben Avatar

      Thanks so much, Tyler! Good luck on the modification, and let us know how it turns out!

      1. Tyler Avatar

        Worked out so great, I’m having a little trouble with the humidity being too high right now, (we’ve had a lot of rain in SF recently) but the project turned out great. I’m starting with some Duck Prosciutto right now which I’ll have a description up of soon. Plus I have plans to go wild boar hunting in a few weeks so I can get started on prosciutto and pancetta, maybe even some salami if I add a grinder/stuffer to my pantry. Again here is the link http://sometimesigetboredandbuild.blogspot.com/ A commercial fridge sure looks good despite the hassle.

  11. Mainsail Avatar
    Mainsail

    Nice article. There seems to be an error in it that could cause trouble, however. To guarantee maintaining your set PID controller temperature, you should set your refrigerator temperature to the coldest, not the warmest setting. If, for example, you’d like your chamber to maintain 50 F and your fridge’s warmest setting is 55 F, the chamber will never be cooler than 55 F even when your controller is set to 50 F because the fridge thermostat will stop the compressor before the PID controller reaches the cutoff temperature. If the fridge temp is set to its coldest value, it will continue to cool until the PID controller reaches its set value and cuts off the power. That way you know that the compressor will always kick in when the chamber is warmer than the set PID value.

  12. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    Hi Ben,
    I just built a chamber almost exactly as you have done. I used a tall Bosch frost free larder fridge, same controllers as yours. The problem I have is not one I expected and wondered if you or any of your readers have come across this. The problem is my humidity level is too high, the humidity controller never kicks in. I even turned the US humidifier off. The Humidity level is running at circa 80-85% practically all the time, not surprisingly it drops when I open the door but it very soon climbs back up again. The temp is controlling fine and the ambient humidity in the room is circa 50%. I expected the fridge to run at much lower humidity. Any ideas anyone?

    1. Ben Avatar

      Hi, Simon! Very strange, but I’m not familiar with a “frost free larder fridge.” No fridge should be frost-free, because a refrigerator doesn’t get below the freezing point. If you are trying to use a converted freezer, most conventional freezers do not have an evaporator feature that lowers the humidity level automatically. However, “frost free” freezers do have this feature. Ultimately, though, I’m not familiar with the type of refrigerator you’re using, so I can’t really comment. A traditional fridge/freezer combination should give you extremely dry conditions which you have to supplement with extra moisture with the humidifier. I’d ditch this “frost free larder fridge” that you have, and find a cheap or free used, traditional fridge/freezer combo.

      1. Simon Avatar
        Simon

        Hi Ben, frost free was the wrong term. The fridge spec says Defrost process is automatic but that it is ‘not’ frost free. After my post I came across this on another site. It sounds promising and I am going to give it a go. http://www.localfoodheroes.co.uk/?e=782

  13. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    Hi all, just to let everyone know that I followed up on the loaclfoodheroes article re humidity too high and I added a small heat source in place of the humifier. Bingo, the humidity is now tracking 75 +/-5% & temp tracking 10.5 – 12.5 as set. I suspect that come the summer months I may need to ad the humidifier back in but we will see. Just tried first batch of salami, yum.

  14. DK Avatar
    DK

    I don’t know what humidity levels you hope to reach, but 70%+ at 57 degrees F is a pretty good target for most cured meats, allowing the water activity to diminish slowly, especially for fermented salumi. The reason most home curing chambers fail is lack of fresh air, which will create the perfect environment for bad mold, bad microflora, bad aroma, bad taste, and potentially hazardous product. Look to simple solutions like a computer cooling fan on a timer, running for just a few minutes per day. Simpler still, just open the door on your chamber 2-3 times a day for a few minutes. Look to the old world if you want to understand what curing is, and what it is not. Nobody in the old world cures meat in a sealed space, and certainly not in a space the size of a small refrigerator. You can tell yourself that the funky aroma is “old world”, but it is not. Cured meats need to breathe. If they do, they can handle a fairly broad temperature and humidity over the course of a day.

  15. art Avatar
    art

    OK i don’t cure meat im in the cigar business and was having problems with my humanist came across your diagram on amazon linked here. thank you. i have two off these running two humidifiers and they work great also picked up the temp prob. you rock…..

  16. Jim Wolf Avatar
    Jim Wolf

    Question – I want to hang whole beefs so of course need a lot more size. I understand that cooling units in fridges are based on the cubic footage of the fridge and my closet will be bigger. Can I make up for the larger size with a much higher insulation value?

    1. Ben Avatar

      Jim, this is uncharted territory for me. You’re wanting to convert a closet into a ageing chamber? I would imagine that, with a window unit or portable a/c, you could easily keep the room temp in the right range (though your electricity bill will certainly go up!) Keeping a room humid enough (or dry enough) may be tricky, depending on where in the country you are. And, yes, I would encourage an insulation boost on the walls and ceiling of the room to lower the amount of electricity you have to use. Sanitation may be a problem since you can’t just spray the inside with Lysol after use. This project will require LOTS of research.

  17. don rau Avatar
    don rau

    Did you repurpose a freezerless fridge or maybe you removed the partition between freezer and fridg?
    If it had a freezer would it matter if it was top, bottom or side-by-side?

    1. Ben Avatar

      Don, if you are repurposing a chest freezer, it may end up being too damp on the inside. I have converted several chest freezers into refrigerators, and they produce a HUGE amount of condensation. This is a traditional fridge/freezer combo. The freezer part stays around 50F when I’m actively curing meat in the fridge portion, so I use the top part for ageing cheese. When I’m not using the bottom for curing meat, I leave the freezer part so that it freezes and I keep frozen stuff in it.

  18. Lomas Avatar
    Lomas

    Hi Ben, thanks for the great info. I have an old beer fridge (I’m in Australia) which I think would be perfect to convert to a curing chamber as it has a bottom mount freezer. BUT, it says it is ‘cycle defrost’. It appears to have a cooling plate in the fridge compartment which frosts up and periodically warms to remove the frost which melts into a channel is passed out of the fridge. Any idea if this will work as a curing chamber? Or will it run too humid, especially when I put meat/salami in there? Have ordered a thermo hygrometer so will be able to check it soon. Thanks.

    1. Ben Avatar

      Lomas, others will probably be better equipped to answer this question than I am…I’m not that familiar with how refrigerators and freezers work. MOST fridge/freezer combos here are “frostless” which means they do that thing where they warm up slightly and circulate the air to get rid of frost crystals. So I think you’ll be just fine.

  19. Chris Blanch Avatar
    Chris Blanch

    Question about the WH8040. I’m setting up a unit with a humidifier and dehumidifier with a WH8040 controlling each one. I’m having trouble wrapping my head around what the settings for each unit should be. Let’s say that I want humidity to be at 70%. Would I set the humidifier unit to come on at, let’s say 67%? And the dehumidifier to come on at about 73%? Also, what where should the hysteresis be set? I guess I don’t want to be continually cycling between the humidifier and dehumidifier. Last question: Could one sensor be used to feed both WH8040 units (ie could I make pigtails at the ends of each sensor wire and then connect them to each WH8040)?

  20. hoodoshnik Avatar
    hoodoshnik

    thanks for wiring help on the humidity controller. can’t help but mention tho – always make yr wire loops clockwise so that the nut tightens them rather than loosens them. they really do come loose if done backwards… you’ve got yours backwards on the photo with the fridge plug 🙂

  21. Dylan Avatar
    Dylan

    Hi Ben, i was curious if i built a non-ultra sonic, cool-mist humidifier into the door of the fridge if it would work. My plan is to use either the same material as the inside of the fridge or glass/plastic and use a water proof sealant to make the door all one chamber. Leaving a corner out for where the fan goes. The fan will be part of the lid to easily change the filter and add more water. If this system works then ill be able to have all my electrical wires in the door other than the sensors. Also it’ll never be in the way.

    1. Ben Avatar

      Interesting idea, let us know how it turns out!!

  22. Jim Wolf Avatar
    Jim Wolf

    I note that you are recommending a humidity of about 65% and a temp in the low 60’s. Articles read of hanging beef carcasses recommend 36-38 degrees and initially humidity of 85-95%. What am I missing? I took your word “curing” as the same as “aging” but I think I misunderstood.
    In a response to a question I asked earlier you thought my aging closet was too big for the fridge to handle but as I look at the unit in your pictures it also seems pretty big. Mine is 5X5X7 with 5 1/2″ insulation. I want to use a fridge/freezer because AC units seem to have a lot of problems with the coils freezing.
    By the way, I really respect your ability to say, “I don’t know.”
    Jim Wolf

    1. Ben Avatar

      Jim, my humidity recommendations come from the Italian traditions as documented in several books which started me on my meat curing journey. Aging beef and curing beef are two VERY different things, though!!

  23. Mike Avatar
    Mike

    I’m in the process of building my chamber, just waiting on my stc-1000’s to arrive. being a little anxious I was wondering if you could tell me; can the stc-1000 operate on cooling & heating at the same time. Such as it cools to 55f but if temp drops below 50f the heat would kick on. Or is it just one or the other?
    Thanks.
    Mike
    By the way, I have studied your post and I’m using many of your designs on my chamber. Thanks for sharing.

    1. Ben Avatar

      Mike, I don’t use mine for heating, only for cooling. So I’m not sure what to tell you, though lots of other folks have been following this thread that know way more than I do! I personally don’t think you need heating unless your unit is in a garage in an area that gets really, really cold. Move it indoors to a closet for the winter?

  24. Kevin Avatar
    Kevin

    Hey guys you may try a hydrate unit designed for a humidor, they work well and are self contained but the cost is a little expensive. I am building a unit just for my artisan cheese. I am using the same temp control suggested but wiring it in place of the factory thermostat. Most factory thermostats on mini fridges turn power to the compressor on and off so with a volt meter figuring out the wiring is easy. This keeps the wiring in the box.

  25. Jerry Avatar
    Jerry

    Hi Kevin. Where did you get hydration unit? I am doing the same. Trying to figure out how to maintain thee high humidity need.

    1. Kevin Avatar
      Kevin

      Jerry try http://www.pipesandcigars.com/home they have the best sellection. You may also try Amazon, but from my experience their prices are high and selection very small.

  26. George Drndarski Avatar
    George Drndarski

    Hi Ben Thanks for sharing. I started 2yares ago ewriting works great I want to expand My production I wont to no if I could convert a chest freezer for a holding chamber the refrigerator is only for curing I haw no room for finished product I think they do interfere with each other On your design I made 1 small change I put the humidifier outside whit a hole on the side of the refrigerator works great thanks George

  27. Brian Avatar
    Brian

    Most modern residential refrigerators work by making coils (evaporator) cold in the freezer with a fan circulating air in the freezer. Some of that cold air goes into the refrigerator portion of the box. The fridge and freezer are not isolated, because there is active ventilation between the compartments. The freezer does not become a separate compartment as you have assumed. If you are trying to isolate your aging cheese from your curing meat using a residential fridge will not work without major re-engineering. I plan to use an upright frost free freezer for meat curing in batches. Commercial dual zone refrigerators operate differently.

    I am also curious to know if a dehumidification override would be required for humid climates. Frost-free fridge/freezers dehumidify as part of operating. It is relatively simple to set up, but adds the expense of another controller.

    1. Ben Avatar

      Brian, you are correct that the same air circulates between the fridge chamber and the freezer chamber. I’ve just placed a HEPA filter over the air vents to try to keep down the bacterial flow between the two chambers.

  28. madraoulas Avatar

    Very interesting!…I want to make my refrigerator a maintenance unit for fruits.So I want a temperature 2-5 Celsius and humidity 90-95%..CAn I do it with your DIY unit?..Thank you

    1. Ben Avatar

      Yes, this setup can be used to keep your fridge at virtually any temp from just above freezing to several degrees below the ambient temperature of wherever the unit is kept, and any humidity level.

  29. Ben Greenfield Avatar

    I just got all this rigged up. But what do you do if the refrigerator is in a cold place (45-50 degrees)…is there a way to set up the temperature controller to heat when it gets too cold, or is the refrigerator being too cold not a bad thing? Will that affect meat?

    1. Ben Avatar

      Ben, I don’t live in a climate where the fridge would ever get below that temp for more than a day or two. Your fridge is insulated from the inside out, so if it’s colder outside, the inside is likely to remain in or close to your target temp zone for quite awhile without the compressor having to turn on. However, if you’re in a climate where your garage sits at 40 degrees all winter long, you might need to consider a heating element. Just remember that, for millenia, humans have cured meat in underground cellars, which DO fluctuate in temperature throughout the year. Meats will STILL cure at lower temps, they just take longer to cure because microbial activity is slowed. I’m not enough of an expert to know if your recipe would need to be modified if you’re curing when the temp is 45 degrees, but in Iceland and Greenland they cure meats in near-freezing temps all year long.

      1. Ben Greenfield Avatar

        Makes total sense Ben. So do you know if the Johnson Controls Digital Thermostat Control Unit (this is what I’m currently using) will automatically “turn on” the cooling once the temperature *does* increase to a certain point?

  30. Ben Greenfield Avatar

    Question: I’ve got the Johnson A419 Temperature Controller…does anyone know the jumper positioning settings I would need to have this on to enable the refrigerator to go into cooling mode when temperature exceeds 65F and to go into heating mode when the temperature goes below 60F?

  31. clementineheritagefarm Avatar

    Read the whole blog, then all the comments! Have a question: I’m looking to convert an old standup freezer. Will that work instead of a fridge? I’m not real wire-savvy so I plan on using the plug-and-go setup. I saw someone commented that the humidity controller doesn’t actually work in this setup – is that true?

    1. Ben Avatar

      I’m not sure why it wouldn’t work with an old standup freezers. Your only problem may be excess humidity, as most chest and upright freezers don’t dry out the air the way that fridges and frost-free freezers do.

  32. Steven Avatar
    Steven

    Have you ever used the fridge to dry-age steaks or any other curing process? If so, did you still need to use the humidifier or would that necessitate the addition of a dehumidifier? How much lower was the humidity of the fridge without the use of the humidifier versus the ambiant humidity in your area?

    1. Ben Avatar

      Steven, our humidity is typically in the 50-60% range, and my normal fridge is around 70% humidity, depending on what I have in it. (It’s normally quite full of stuff…emptier fridges will be drier.) Dry aging needs the same humidity range as curing…80-85%. You’d need to test your own fridge in your area in your season to determine if you need the humidifier or not. I doubt you’d need a dehumidifier unless you’ve crammed the fridge absolutely full of meat.

    2. Kevin Blanchard Avatar
      Kevin Blanchard

      Steve Ben is correct another varience is where you live. I live in Oklahoma now and I need a humidifier but when I lived in Louisiana the relitive humidity was higher and it reflected in the fridge as well.

  33. Tim Smyth Avatar

    My wife has been after me for years to make one for making charcuterie and I’m ready to give in. Mostly because I’m hoping this will work for curing all the sweet potatoes I have in the garden.

    Here’s my question: will I be able to reach 80 degrees to 85 degrees and a relative humidity of 80 percent to 90 percent? That’s quite a bit higher, on both counts, for normal curing. Any ideas on modifications? Maybe a heating pad with the fridge turned off. It’s only for a week or so, then back to normal. Your thoughts?

    1. Ben Avatar

      Interesting question, Tim. I honestly have no idea if a heating pad will produce enough heat to keep the chamber above 80. (Certainly if you live in a hot climate, like I do, you wouldn’t need that in the summer, depending on where you locate the unit.) All the modern heating pads I’ve run across turn themselves off after awhile, so if your unit was having trouble keeping the fridge up to 80F, and the pad was on the whole time, I think it might eventually shut itself off. My suggestion would be to do your curing in the heat of summer, when your garage or backyard is always 80F or higher, if you live in that sort of a climate. If not, it might be worth trying the heating pad, but I’d imagine a small space heater would be more efficient.

  34. Sebastian Avatar

    Fantastic post! Your wiring instructions for the WH8040 are a godsend. I am using it for mushroom production but intrigued by this topic!

    Quick (hopefully) wiring question for you, Ben. I would like to run a fan and humidifier as a single unit or at least concurrently controlled by the WH8040. Could I pigtail them to slot 1 and to the neutral wire of the power cord? Should I plug them into a multi-outlet cord and run that through the controller? What’s the best/safest way to do this?
    Thanks!
    Sebastian

    1. Ben Avatar

      Sebastian, that sounds logical, but as I’m not a professional electrician, any advice I give would be complete speculation with very little actual knowledge of any danger that might create. Maybe someone more electrical savvy will chime in!

      1. Sebastian Avatar

        Thanks for answering, Ben. I ended up speaking with a sparky about this, and his recommendation was to connect the WH8040 to a regular outlet that I could then plug the fan and humidifier into. So the outlet is wired into slot 1, etc… and the controller shuts off power to the whole outlet. Kinda clunky, but it works!

  35. Anthony Davis Avatar
    Anthony Davis

    Hi Ben,
    Thanks for the inspiration. I have just finished my fridge conversion and built a control box. My humidity controller is the WH8040. The problem I have is trying to achieve 85% humidity. I have a strong suspicion the 8040 humidity sensor is getting saturated and drifting off by as much as 20%. It routinely overshoots to ‘HHH’ (99%) although my data logger shows the true humidity rarely gets to 80%.
    Have you come across this problem? Do you know if other types of sensor are available which can handle high humidity?

    Regards

    Tony (UK)

    1. Ben Avatar

      Tony, I haven’t had this problem, so I’m not sure what to tell you. This sensor worked for me without any issues, and my humidity sensor shows it to be pretty spot on…

    2. Bill Trikojus Avatar

      I’m having this same problem. Did you ever get it sorted or buy another unit? Thanks

  36. Bill Trikojus Avatar

    OK these comments don’t seem to be getting added anymore, but just wanted to add that the first WH8040 had this problem but the second one I bought was fine. Not sure if it was just a dodgy unit or the different sensors on the second one. Anyway,

    Bad: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=191612799625&view=all&tid=1171285098009
    Good: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/281763043963

  37. Nathan Avatar
    Nathan

    Hi Ben,
    I have built and installed my curing fridge as by your idea, the problem I seem to be having is that the humidity is always over 84% and the tempreture is about 15 degrees. How can I alter this? Do I need to introduce a heating source?
    Best
    Nathan

    1. Ben Avatar

      Nathan, try a tray of natural lump charcoal on the bottom of the chamber to absorb some excess moisture.

  38. pamela Iles Avatar
    pamela Iles

    Hi fellow meat cure enthusiast! I am converting a wine cooler to a curing chamber. It is already digitally temperature controlled so my main issue is humidity. Thanks for the complete information it was very helpful. There are a lot of products out there and they all kinda look a like after a few days sitting on websites. Also I am not an electrician so the wiring information is very helpful. After you had your system set up and “burned in” what issues have you had to deal with? Thanks again, Pamela Iles

    1. Ben Avatar

      Pamela, the only issue I’ve run into is that I aged cheese in the freezer cavity, which inoculated the main chamber with a variety of molds and bacteria that mature cheeses. There’s no harm it it, of course, but they tend to grow on my meats, as well. Eventually I’ll sterilize everything as much as possible and stop aging cheese in the freezer.

  39. Dave Avatar
    Dave

    Great write up — thanks! What are your thoughts on using a crystal humidifier, typically used for regulating humidors for cigars? Safe? Something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Xikar-808XI-Crystal-Humidifier-Jar/dp/B002VYQLOW/

    Dave

  40. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Greetings Mr. Ben Can you tell me if anything has to be done with the refrigerators thermostat when using the STC 1000 as you have it set up? Can the refrigerators thermostat be removed? Thanks Tom

  41. Adam T Avatar
    Adam T

    Thank you for your detailed article.
    two questions:
    I am trying to modify a mini refrigerator to dry age beef. The internal thermostat cycles between 33-44 degrees at coldest. The upper end is too high before the compressor kicks on again. I have ordered the stc 100o for more precise temperature control. In your install are you bypassing the refrigerators internal thermostat?

    I know you are curing , not dry aging, It is my impression that humidity control is less relevant in my application. Would you agree.

    Many thanks

    1. Ben Avatar

      Adam, this doesn’t really “bypass” the fridge’s thermostat, but it powers the fridge on to cool when you reach the upper end of the range you set, and turns the fridge off when it reaches the lower end. So the fridge’s thermostat is still inside it and confused, but it’s mostly irrelevant.

  42. Luigi Avatar
    Luigi

    Hi Ben ! After making my conversion I found that my fridge humidity is running too high from 83% up to 87%. I already see mold forming on my salame and pancetta. I wonder what can I do to lower it? I have already removed the humidifier and it is still in the high eighties. Thank you! Luigi.

    1. Ben Avatar

      Luigi, try placing a bowl or tray of natural lump charcoal in the bottom of the fridge. This should help absorb some extra moisture until your meat isn’t giving off so much!

  43. John Medvidovich Avatar
    John Medvidovich

    Hi Ben; I’m new to curing meat. I am raising Boer Goats and getting ready to butcher. Setting up a side by side refrigerator and ready to get the above mentioned items to control temp. and humidity. But I’m confused about something I read about curing meat you start out with a higher humidity say 75% and slowly lower it @ 5% per week or so to draw out inner meat moisture.
    What happens when you already have meat curing in your frig and later on want to start curing more kinds of cuts or whatever. now you have a problem when you need two different humidity settings. how do you address this ?
    I have read your instructions several times over last month or so, while looking for my frig to convert and I like your web so far and can’t wait to get started. I have to get the controls and humidifier yet and wondered about the humidity? Thanking you in advance for your reply; John/[email protected]

    1. Ben Avatar

      John, don’t sweat the humidity range too much. As your chamber gets more and more full of meat, it will mostly regulate it’s humidity level for awhile, and you may not have to use your humidifier. As long as you’re in thee 60-75% range most of the time, you’ll be fine. The cellars in which meat has been cured for centuries in Europe have no humidification control.

  44. Louis Lancaster Avatar
    Louis Lancaster

    I enjoyed reading about your project. It reminds me of another where a freezer was used instead. It also had part numbers from Grainger for the temp and humidity controllers used there.

    By any chance are you familiar with that paper and know where to find it? I’m trying to gather as much information as I can in order to do my project just once.

    Louis

  45. James Mason Avatar
    James Mason

    Just picked up a fridge, put my order into Amazon for everything you recommended. Except the humidifier they where out of the pink ones so I got the next best one. Been wanting to do this for awhile but finally got it going.

    1. Josh Avatar
      Josh

      James, How did you fridge turn out? This is something I have been wanting to do for awhile, and might give this a shot. Hunting season is only 4 months away!

  46. James Avatar
    James

    Ben:

    I know this post was a while ago but just found it. I am researching building my own cheese cave and found this article extremely helpful. So thanks for that. I just have a few questions for you. 1. Can I use a deep freeze chest freezer in lieu ova Fridge? 2. Does the airflow in the cave need an exit or is just rotating air inside the cave good enough? Thanks in advance for your answers. Hope you’re having a good 2016.

    1. Ben Avatar

      James, I don’t see why a chest freezer wouldn’t work. It will probably stay more humid naturally…all the chest freezers I’ve converted into fridges stay really damp. You may not even need the humidifier. The only problem I foresee with this is the inability or challenge of hanging meat inside, unless you rig up some kind of racks along the top of the chamber, and since access will only be from above, moving and spacing things may be tough. The airflow does not need an exit, it just needs to be moving around inside the chamber.

  47. boletus4u Avatar
    boletus4u

    Thanks for all your info. Purchased the electronics you recommend off amazon.ca for around 80 dollars cdn, and just got a deal on a frost free one door fridge onl unit. Now I have to set it all up. Struggling with whether or not I should try to sink the electronics into the fridge for a cleaner look or maybe set it in some closed electrical box and fasten to side of fridge. Anyone try either? Photos?

  48. Nicole Gard Avatar
    Nicole Gard

    Found your set-up and it’s exactly what my husband and I have wanted to do, but didn’t know HOW to do! My only question for you is – you mentioned that you don’t want to cure meat and age cheese in the same chamber… If I do the cheese in the freezer section, do I need to add another humidifier/humidity controller? Cheese needs high humidity, too, so I’m wondering if the humidity will rotate from the lower fridge chamber to the freezer chamber? And if it does, then doesn’t that go back to the problem of having the cheese bacteria growing on your meats?
    Thanks so much for passing your vast knowledge on to us beginners!

    1. Ben Avatar

      Nicole, I ended up abandoning the freezer chamber, I don’t age cheese in it any longer. First of all, because somehow the chamber started dropping below 32 and the cheese froze! But you are correct…the same air cycles through both chambers, so there is a good chance of bacterial culture swapping between chambers.

  49. Jean-Paul Lassale Avatar
    Jean-Paul Lassale

    Ben, you’re post was perfect inspiration as I’d just made my first batch of salamis and chorizos and was hanging them in a friend’s coolroom but it was just too cold. I’ve since found an old fridge, purchased a couple of new Willhi controllers, a fan and humidifier (that glows blue) off aliexpress.com (we don’t have Amazon in New Zealand) and 5 minutes ago transferred my meats into their new home. Very happy, thanks again!

  50. Luke WG Avatar
    Luke WG

    I was looking into an aging machine that can handle a heat range of 100°-200°. Would this application work?

  51. Dag Avatar
    Dag

    Seems i’m a bit late to the party, but hopefully you’ll still see my question: I am planning on building my own curing chamber, and have read quite a few tutorials the last two days. In most of these, there are ventilation holes in the sides of the cabinet, to promote air flow (and/or fresh air). Are you aware of any pros or cons when omitting the ventilation holes?

  52. Westley Avatar
    Westley

    Hello Ben, I was thrilled to see you provided all the Relevant Details in making your own Charcuterie Curing Chamber.
    I have followed all your instructions to the tee.
    However my Humidity Controller is hanging around the 75% Range where ideally I would prefer 65%.
    I also read from yourself to put Lump Charcoal in to lower the Humidity.
    Is there no way the Humidity Controller can Maintain the Humidity range from 55% – 65%?
    I thought that was the whole point of using a Humidity Controller.
    Thank you in advance,
    Regards Wes

    1. Ben Avatar

      Westley, your local climate can have a huge impact on the humidity inside your chamber. The Humidity Controller doesn’t actually control the humidity itself…it senses the humidity and sends a signal to whatever devices you have installed that change the humidity. In most locations outside the tropics, the problem is ADDING humidity…thus the cool mist humidified. But if you’re in New Orleans or Houston and it’s 80% humidity all the time, you’re going to have trouble keeping your chamber in the right zone without a dehumidifier. You can get one, or if charcoal or rice work for you, use that.

  53. John Warr Avatar

    I have just been doing a bit of calculation for a Serrano ham I am working on & read your article. I have also ended up using the same Rh controller wired pretty much as you have done, the only slight variation being the in-fridge wiring for temperature control. I may have misunderstood something or you may already have corrected this but…. anyway, here goes:

    You say that HS and LS are the upper and lower ends of the control range. ie, if you set LS at 65 and HS at 80, the Rh will be controlled between those limits. That is really logical but I don’t think it is the case. I think HS and LS are the upper and lower limits of the range in which the set point can lie. So if you have HS of 80 and LS of 65 the set point MUST lie between these two. And in the instructions above you never actually set a set point, which is done by briefly pressing “SET” and then using the up and down arrows to get the desired humidity setting. And you will notice that you can’t set above HS or below LS. How closely the instrument will try to keep to this set point is then down to d (hysteresis) and PT ( the protective timer). Hysteresis works like this:

    In humidify mode, if set point is 85% and hysteresis = 2%, then if Rh is ≥ 85% then the relay is “OFF”. If Rh ≤ 83% ( set point – hysteresis) then relay is “ON”.
    In dehumidify mode, If set point = 75% and hysteresis = 5%, when Rh ≤ 75% then relay is “OFF”. When Rh ≥ 80% (set point + hysteresis) then relay is “ON”.

    I may be wrong – my instrument may differ slightly – but there you go. Nice article BTW. I had done 3 Parma type hams before I realized this (using a salt slurry to control humidity) but my method for the Serrano type ham needs a bit more control so I have both a humidifier and a peltier type dehumidifier.

    Best of luck;

    John.

  54. Glenn Avatar
    Glenn

    Hey Ben,

    Thanks to your blog I have almost completed my first curing chamber using your instructions and can’t wait to get curing my own meats! I have read on some other sites that i should put vents in the top right and bottom left of the chamber for better airflow. What are your thoughts? Cheers!

    1. Ben Avatar

      Glenn, my curing chamber works fine using the fan. If you’re concerned about ventilation, just open the door once or twice a day. Cutting through the walls of the fridge may result in piercing a coolant tube, which would render the chamber ineffective.

  55. Helen Avatar
    Helen

    Hi, great work you have here. I am Helen and I live in Lagos Nigeria where the weather is very humid. I am a dietitian and planning on become a chef but suffice to say that I am a food aficinado and I love to make food from scratch. Making Proscuitto has always appealed to me but the curing chamber is a bit of a headache. While your post was very explanatory and I could understand a bit, I don’t have a head for mechanical and electrical things. Is it possible for you to do a video explanation? Is there a way I can purchase a readymade curing chamber?

  56. Mike Avatar
    Mike

    Would it be a good idea to install a bulb to create heat. I’m looking to also have my curing chamber double as a proofer when not in use.

    1. Ben Avatar

      Mike, I’m not entirely sure it’s a good idea to double up on your chamber like that. You’re going to be cultivating a healthy colony of bacteria in your chamber, whether meat is curing in it or not. Perhaps the short time of proofing will not result in your dough being inoculated with bacteria from the meat, and if it does, the baking process will kill it…but it just doesn’t “feel” right to me. I would worry, also, that the bulb would create too much heat, leading to an environment that doesn’t favor the right bacteria for meat curing. You’d need to keep VERY careful tabs on the temperature for the first several days to know if you’re in the right zone.

  57. David Clarke Avatar
    David Clarke

    Hi. My name is David. and I live in Queensland Australia Iam Converting A fridge in to a curing chamber and wondering why there is no ventilation .

  58. Etienne Avatar

    Wow, super article! It’s really helpfull. Thank you for all your advices. I’ll try with a wine scellar so i can set the right temperature and there is alrdeady a fan inside. But i was worry about the humidity control and you just give me the solution. Just a question for you. My wine scellar is saller then a fridg so if i have a lot of meat inside, do you think it can cause me some trouble? (Air circulation or mold or any thing else?)

    Thank you again, great article!

    1. Ben Avatar

      Etienne, if you have TOO much meat in the wine fridge, the air will not circulate properly and you’ll probably have too high a humidity. You could look at placing a bowl of rice in the bottom to help absorb moisture…you’ll need to change it often. I’d get a cheap hygrometer on Amazon to make sure you’re in the right range.

  59. todd fischer Avatar
    todd fischer

    what I want to know is , where or from who do I buy cheese at in small quantities? I would like to age my own cheese, but there are lots of them that I have never tasted and don’t know if would like them.
    right now, im trying to age beef in the vacuum pack from the meat dept. and its been 2 months now, time will tell and I will tell too!! wet aged beef ! I will let u know if it really works or not. I have a small , table top beverage cooler, used for cans of soda, I picked it up on CL. “True” makes a lot of these units for major soda companies, and older ones that work are out there, I didn’t say cheap, u did ! they aren’t but they are heavy duty constructed.

    1. Ben Avatar

      Todd, if you live in a major city, you might have a cheese shop that will sell in small quantities. (They will usually also offer free samples of any of their cheeses.) If you’re in a smaller town, you’re in for less luck, but go to the best gourmet grocery store nearby and ask the cheese department to begin saving you the little nuggets left over after they break down the larger wheels of cheese. (Many stores actually sell these remnants as tasters.)

  60. Sage Avatar
    Sage

    Hi, thanks a lot for this detail instruction. Just one question here-
    Can I use lamp wire to connect the humidity controller(same brand as yours) to a personal humidifier?
    Is there any fire hazard by doing so?
    Thanks!

    1. Ben Avatar

      Sage, I’m not an electrician, so I can’t answer this question properly! I’d err on the side of safety and use heavier gauge wires, personally.

  61. Jason Avatar

    Wow, great idea mate! The only problem here is that I do not know anything about the electricity 🙂 I will have to find an electrician who will be willing to help me with this.

  62. Michael Macaluso Avatar
    Michael Macaluso

    Hi I was going to go with your first method and spend some little extra money cause I do not wish to mess with electric work. I have an old dorm fridge that works awesome but it has a little freezer inside can it still work .

    1. Ben Avatar

      The dorm fridge should work just fine, and you may not even need a humidifier because the smaller space, when filled with meat, will remain very humid.

  63. Silviu Avatar
    Silviu

    Thank you for a very instructive article. I’m about to start dry-curing meats starting with a batch of salami tomorrow, and I was looking around for a tutorial like this. Fortunately I have a basement that’s at an almost constant 70 degrees all year ’round, and an enclosed shower cabinet in the basement that’s never used. I scrubbed it really well, sanitized with bleach, washed all the bleach with plenty of water. I covered the top of the cabinet with a piece of corrugated vinyl and duct-taped it in place. The only thing that I need to control is the humidity, because my basement is usually 50-55% (monitored it for a couple weeks) so I wired a WH8040 to a humidifier I already had – a CVS brand one, ultrasonic but without built-in water tank, uses a plastic soda bottle as a tank through an adapter. Had the system running for the past 24h, works really well maintaining 85-90% RH inside because that’s what the method I follow calls for (high humidity for the fermentation phase, then ramping it down for the long drying phase). Can’t wait for the results!

  64. Jennifer Avatar
    Jennifer

    Thank you! This was exactly what I was looking for and way less intimidating than expected. Appreciate the time you took to share.

  65. Roberson Avatar
    Roberson

    How can you prevent water inside humidifier freeze below 3 celsius degree ?

    1. Ben Avatar

      Roberson, the temperature inside the chamber should never be 3C. That is too cold for proper curing.

  66. Brandon Harper Avatar
    Brandon Harper

    Would love to hear how some things have turned out. Long time meat processer, limited aging experience.

  67. Ricardo Avatar
    Ricardo

    hello, i have 2 questions.

    1° may i use a UV lamp to kill the bacterias?

    2° the fridge has to be frostfree?

    1. Ben Avatar

      Ricardo, I’m not familiar with “Frost free” fridges, only freezers. They basically circulate air around the freezer to prevent frost crystals from building up. But any normal residential refrigerator should work. I would not use a UV lamp inside the unit. Part of what you are doing is fermenting the meat, and this process requires the presence of good bacteria, which you’ll be killing with your UV lamp. People have been curing meat in their cellars and holes in the ground for as long as humans have been on the planet. Follow established standards correctly and you won’t have need for UV.

  68. christer Avatar
    christer

    I only have one question . If i Buy the plug and play for temperature and humidity, where do i connect the ultrasonic humifider. is it to the plug and play humidity controller.? Cause the ultrasonic humifider does have to turn on when it is needed.

    1. Ben Avatar

      Yes, your ultrasonic humidifier is wired (or plugged, depending on your humidity controller) directly into the controller.

  69. Erik Avatar
    Erik

    I modeled my chamber exactly like yours. I live in Ohio, so it’s now furnace weather and I’m noticing a humidity drop in my chamber (in my basement)despite having the setting at 68% for the minimum humidity setting. It’s dropped as low as 49%.could the dry air outside the chamber affect the inside humidity? Is this possible? I also brew beer in my basement( relax! It’s exhaust vented) and I have noticed the chamber humidity spikes high when I boil the wort. I wouldn’t think the inside would be affected. Any thoughts? Thnx!

  70. Ike Avatar
    Ike

    If I’m using a side by side refrigerator/freezer do you think I could get two different chambers going for different temperature/humidity settings for rotating batches? Or do you think it’s best to cut a big hole and make it one big chamber?

  71. Pierre du Cladier de Curac Avatar

    Thank you very much Ben. About to start and will update once I have it all up and running. Awesome article. Thank you

  72. Claudio Zodio Avatar
    Claudio Zodio

    Hello,
    Awesome tutorial!
    i found this controller:
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1-16-DIN-Rail-Digital-Temperature-Humidity-Controller/32320416450.html

    Anyone can recommend or tried?

    Regards

  73. Julian Avatar
    Julian

    Hi there,
    I have an issue where the humidity is never getting above 52% – any idea why? I have a cool mist humidifier, proper sensors and temp control at around 15 degrees mark. When I open the fridge it seems quite humid but the sensor won’t go higher. Have tested it outside the chamber and it seems to work / go higher.

    Any tips appreciated.

  74. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    Thanks for the article. I followed your instructions for connecting the STC-1000 controller (which you are correct, the included instructions are awful), and it went flawlessly.

  75. Chris Avatar
    Chris

    Hi and thanks for the article. I am toying with the idea of making my own chamber. I’m thinking about going with the Inkbird IHC-230 plug and play temp/humidity controller. If you know anything about them, would I still need a hygrostat, or would the unit just take care of that on its own? Also, how much air needs to move around in the chamber? Even the 4″ desk fans seem to blow a lot of air around. Would a computer fan work, or does it need more circulation than that?

  76. Leanne Edwards Avatar
    Leanne Edwards

    Hi Ben, just want to say thanks! We’ve just built a handsome cheese cave based on your post. Can’t wait to start using it now. Cheers, Leanne

  77. Todd Avatar
    Todd

    I’m having a difficult time maintaining humidity. I’m using a small 4.5 cubic foot beverage cooler. I have a fan in place, plug and play hygro/thermos units, and ultra sonic humidifier. The problem is when the humidity reaches the set percentage, the humidifier shuts off, but the humidity continues to rise due to the moisture present in the fridge. How do I control the top end of the humidity range? I have my wiring snaked through the drain hole, so the unit is pretty air right.

  78. Jeff Avatar
    Jeff

    Hey Ben, how often do you need to fill the 1 gal humidifier?
    I can get a 2 gal humidfier for a reasonable price, but obviously it will take up more space in the fridge
    Getting into dry-aged beef, using a 115L bar fridge, and ideally it would last for 4-6 weeks without having to be filled (if I keep the fridge door closed the whole time), or am I dreaming?

    1. Ben Avatar

      Jeff, I haven’t cured in awhile, so I honestly can’t remember how often I had to refill. It wasn’t often.

  79. Amir Azami Avatar
    Amir Azami

    Gee I need to proof read before posting

    Just wanted to tell you that I use a Wine or Beverage Fridge with a Glass door, I think its made by Igloo and will adjust via its built in Temperature Range 32 – 61° F. This should save you from buying a separate controller. Also it has a light switch on the outside that I have set to control the Fan. For humidity I use s humidifier with a built in humidistat.

  80. Paul Avatar
    Paul

    Hi , I will be using a 3.6 cubic ft refrigerator to cure of which I would need to include a humidity controller such as your WH8040 but what humidifier would you recommend or mister if thats the case , to fit into a small fridge….??

    Thank you in advance,

    Paul

    1. Ben Avatar

      Paul, your small fridge will probably maintain an ideal humidity level without a mister, provided you have enough meat in there!

    2. John Avatar
      John

      Hello, found this in my interwebz travels and wanted to comment for posterity. You need humidity control in your fridge or you will have way too high when fresh meat goes in and way too when it starts to dry. With that small of a fridge, you’ll want to use a reptile tank humidifier. These have tubing so you can mount it outside and pipe the humidity in, just need to control it with a sensor. As for too much humidity, if you’re able to check it a couple of times a day you can just crack the door and open/close it as needed. This is assuming the fridge is in a clean critter free place that is drier than your target humidity. If neither of those is the case, get the smallest dehumidifier you can find to put in there, but you may want to find another fridge if you’re going to all the trouble anyways. Also worth noting, but not advisable is a saturated salt water solution to regulate humidity. This should hold a 75%RH at your target temps, google it. Cheers and good luck, John.

    3. Tom Pfaelzer Avatar
      Tom Pfaelzer

      Hi, the way I did it was that I drilled a hole through the refrigerator wall and fed the wires through. That is how I saw it on youtube. I didn’t tell me that the refrigerator won’t cool anymore since I drilled the hole through the wall. I did seal the hole where the cables went through with liquid foam sealer/ What happened is that I knew there are no tubes inside the walls with freon in it, but when drilling the hole some kind of air or gas came out. Someone told me I broke the envelope. I didn’t know. I thought the walls are just walls to insulate. Metal on both sides and foam in between Any idea? Don’t know what I have to do.

  81. thom Avatar
    thom

    Regarding the fridge turning on and off to maintain temp, how does this affect the defrost cycle when the heaters are melting the frost on the coils? Does this cycle just continue when the fridge kicks back on?

  82. Matt Avatar
    Matt

    I plan to put my fridge in the garage but I live in South Dakota and during the winter it gets to below freezing sometimes. Do I need a way to keep heat on the inside?

  83. George Avatar
    George

    Hello!
    I have a question about Instacure #2: apart from the fact that you can get botulism if you don’t use it, the taste of the meat and the curing process will be affected if you don’t use Instacure #2 in the curing process?

    1. Ben Avatar

      Yes, nitrites impart a specific “cured meat” flavor. Curing meat without it is possible, and has been done for millenia, but you do risk botulism, and you will end up with a different flavor.

  84. Sunny Avatar
    Sunny

    Do you think this could be done using a mini dorm room fridge? Just want to try drying a prime rib roast before investing a bunch of money into a big setup. thanks!

  85. Paul Kerry Avatar
    Paul Kerry

    Thanks for your blog Ben, its just what I needed to start me on the home salami route.

    Just a question to see what you think. In days gone by when curers had no plastic etc, they would use wood enclosures for their curing needs, I have read that wood has its own anti bacterial properties, so the question is, could I make a sturdy, insulated box (fridge size) and instead of a fridges own compressor/cooler, use a fan connected to outside air to reduce temp and a ceramic heater to increase temp, all coupled together with humidity producer and controllers (temp etc).

    This would help air circulation which I have read is important to curing the meat. I’m going to produce salami to begin with and may broaden out to others later, but for now, do you think this is a viable setup or am I missing an important ingredient/practice ?

    I know your advice would be personal and not hold you responsible for anything untoward that may happen from that advice.

  86. John Larson Avatar

    Hi Ben, I do my share of wildlife culinary here in Northern Nevada. I have built my own butcher shop about 8′ x 16′ long and built a professional refrigeration system in it to drop the temperature is down to about 28° in the hanging section of the shop. I would like to build a temperature controlled cabinet to make dry Italian cured salami, as well as other sausages too. In most of the recipes for salamis, they very strongly suggest starting at 95°F and 95% humidity. Then eventually reduce the temps 10 degrees and humidity 10 % over weeks working down into the 60-70 areas of both temp and humidity. Will these controls work with temperatures and humidity at that level? Since own an RV repair business, I would be using a small 5 cubic ft. RV refrigerator box about 42 inches tall.

  87. Lucas Avatar
    Lucas

    Hi, Ben!
    You mentioned you have the freezer in the same fridge set up to cure cheese with a slightly lower temperature and I assume higher humidity. Did you install a whole other set of hygrometer, thermostat, etc., up there or were you able to use the same equipment you used for the frige to controll both environments at the same time?

    Thanks!

    1. Ben Avatar

      For several months my freezer remained miraculously perfect for ageing cheese without having to add any instruments or modifiers. Shortly after that, it started dropping below freezing and I had to stop using that chamber to age cheese.

  88. Ron A. Avatar
    Ron A.

    Looks good on paper, but what keeps the refrigeration compressor from burning itself out from short cycling?

  89. Dragan Avatar
    Dragan

    Hi Ben, Do you turn the fan off from time to time or it is always on?
    Dragan

  90. William William McCracken Avatar
    William William McCracken

    thanks for all the information and foot work, i have alot of experience with fresh , cured and smoked sausages, but am wanting to get into dry and semi dry fermented meats, i think this should really help in getting me started. thanks again, bmc.

  91. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    Nice information. The only thing I would add, is that these controllers do not have anti-short cycling protection. If you are not careful, they will cycle on and off relatively quickly and put a lot of strain on the compressor. To combat that, it is a good idea to tape the temp probe to a container of water like a 12 or 20 oz soda bottle. That will “buffer” the temperature and reduce the strain on the refrigerator.

  92. Angelo Avatar
    Angelo

    Thanks for the info. I can’t wait to try this out! After some years of being relocated to a warm state with cellars too far and few between, I have hope that I can continue the family’s sopresatta recipe. Thanks again.

  93. Jo Avatar
    Jo

    Thanks for the info, but I have a question. I have my chamber set up the same as yours. When you have your humidity up to 80, are the inside walls of your chamber wet? Mine are and none of the pictures I’ve seen seem to have that. Should I be worried that my set up is incorrect. I am just in the testing phase as I am afraid to add meat until I know the answer to this question. Thanks!

  94. Angelo Avatar
    Angelo

    Thank you for this wonderful article on making the curing chamber. I followed all your advice and bam!!! It worked great. My need for this curing chamber was to make some home made Sopressatta. After I made it and put it in to cure, the humidity just shot up to 95%. Is this normal and will the humidity take a while to get back into the 60’s or should I figure out a way to de humidify it before something bad happens to my product? Thanks

  95. stan grant Avatar
    stan grant

    Thank you for all the effort to produce this valuable information. The power source from outside how do you get it into the fridge cavity?

    1. Ben Avatar

      I just close the door around the cords, it seems to seal fine enough.

  96. Nicholas Avatar
    Nicholas

    I have been learning how to make Spanish Ham(like Prosciutto) at home. It is already done salting and is resting in the fridge. The temperature is supposed to be between 32-36 degrees. After I checked on it last night, the temperature sensor on my controller fell out, causing the fridge to get below freezing for about 15 hours before I found out and allowed it to warm up. Is my Prosciutto ruined or will it continue curing after it thaws. Thanks

    1. Ben Avatar

      Nicholas, this question is a bit beyond my knowledge level, but I doubt the freezing will ruin your prosciutto. It may, however, have a negative impact on the texture, and may create larger air pockets around the bone and between muscle masses, which can harbor mold growth.

  97. Bart Avatar
    Bart

    Hi Ben,
    Thanks for your great overview of the build.
    I’m working on a plan to build one myself and I read different things on the internet regarding the build.
    Some people place a humidifier AND a dehumidifier in the fridge. As well as a heating lamp, to keep the refrigerator going at all time.
    I’m going to build it in a 3.6 cubic ft.

    Thanks!

  98. Sony Avatar
    Sony

    This article is old but it’s so useful. Thank you for the details build. Did you ever post the video?

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